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welcome to Sputnik orbiting the world
with me George Galloway and me gatri of
all the candidates running for president
of the United States the best one I've
seen isn't Bernie Sanders it's not even
Donald Trump it's the candidate of the
US green party she's a better woman than
Clinton she's a better Democrat than
Sanders and if Sanders were to win the
nomination the left vote in America will
certainly be torn if Clinton wins our
next guest might do very well indeed
she's Dr Jill Stein and she's running
for the presidency of the USA which
would make her the most powerful woman
in the history of the world how's that
that's quite quite a prize how are you
doing how's your c campaign going it's
going great it's going gang busters
there's a rebellion going on in the US
as in much of the world for good reason
we're in crisis and people really want
to see change and you know the point
we're making is that you cannot have a
revolution inside of a
counterrevolutionary party that this is
a big fight a deep fight and a long
fight and um you know it can't simply be
passed on to Hillary Clinton um and we
think that uh Bernie Sanders is running
a very principled and Powerful campaign
he's writing that wave of Revolt but you
know fortunately he's in a party which
has a track record for uh basically
sabotaging its Rebels it has done a good
job of doing that in the past from
Dennis cusin to Jesse Jackson uh to
Howard Dean and whether they use uh a PR
campaign like the dean scream to bring
down uh the dean candidacy also Jesse
Jackson was sabotaged by a PR campaign
by the uh DNC um you know the Democratic
party has its ways of reigning people in
if they try to Rebel the bottom line is
that we have a political system in the
US which is funded by predatory Banks
and fossil fuel Giants and War
profiteers so we really need to reject
that system we say to reject the Lesser
evil so we can stand up and really fight
for the greater good oh very well put uh
I better not start on the Democratic
party because I've had a lifelong
experience of the very betrayals and so
on that you allude to
Let Me Assume and I think it's a safe
assumption that Donald Trump God forbid
but likely to be the Republican Party
candidate and Hillary Clinton uh as
kissen jar once said it's a pity they
both can't lose but maybe they could
because you're there as a as an
alternative give me your thumbnail
sketch of those two likely opponents
Unfortunately they have an awful lot in
common um they both support a very
strong military um they support you know
a budget in which 54% of our tax dollars
our discretionary budget is going to the
military um to fight these wars which
are not making us safer they are not
making the world a safer place they are
really um you know uh they are they are
firing back at us uh madly creating
failed States and Refugee crisis and
worse terrorist threats actually so they
both fail to see the picture on that
account they're both very much
representatives of the oligarchy Hillary
Clinton who was on the board of
directors for Walmart there's no more
oppressive a corporation for workers
rights and women than Walmart um you
know who never found a war that she
didn't support uh Donald Trump it's hard
to say exactly where he stands because
he changes his mind all the time he has
a
mind one thing is very clear which is
that uh he is not friendly to immigrants
imants and you know for him not to
understand uh that in our country we are
all immigrants and in fact that
immigrants are really the vitality and
the diversity of our communities our
economy our culture you know this is a
very dangerous thing this is sort of the
slippery slope to Fascism I must say
there is nothing inspiring there's
nothing really uh enlightened about
either of those campaigns they're both
representatives of oligarchy and at this
point it's unclear whether the Republic
an will allow Donald Trump to be
nominated there's talk now about um Ryan
being a brokered candidate uh at the
Republican convention who's he uh that's
Paul Ryan he's speaker of the house and
he's also the chairman of the Republican
National Committee and and you know he's
sort of the establishment Republican
party which is very much at War uh with
Donald Trump well let's stay on Trump
for a moment uh but I know gatri wants
to talk about Clinton um he seems to me
you mentioned the world fascist he seems
to me on the edge of a kind of musolini
type uh politics he's threatening to
punch people in the face at Big rallies
he insults people in the most personal
way even on
television uh he referred uh a few days
ago to someone should have been carried
out of here on a
stretcher uh there's a kind of scary
fascism uh in this uh underneath this
blonde thatch oh a agreed completely um
you know from the start when he began
talking about Mexican immigrants as you
know rapists and and and murderers to uh
advocating that we shoot the family
members of suspected terrorists to
wanting to Bar uh all Muslims from
entering the country I mean this is very
scary stuff and this is what demagoguery
looks like these are real though is it
that's what I wonder is he not just
playing into the voter
well and unfortunately that's what
demagogues do you know and and then
there's no holding them back and then
they each encourages the he talked the
other day about dipping bullets in pig
fat to shoot Muslims and how it worked
then and it could work now he actually
said those words anyway sorry I
interrupted you no um you mentioned
earlier the women's rights now Hillary
is obviously playing the feminist card
but she has killed so many women in her
in her War promotions as foreign
secretary which obviously stands upon
what you stand for what it's quite
ironic isn't it oh it is yes I mean it's
as if elect me because I have two ex
chromosomes you know and I talk about
women but you know she really addresses
the needs of women very much around the
margins yes Child Care would be
wonderful and after school programs and
equal wages but how about we have wages
which are living wages that can keep a
family out of poverty no one has hurt
more from the austerity agenda that
Hillary Clinton has been a promoter of
you know she was uh very much on board
with her husband when he uh dismantled
the safety net for poor women uh put an
end to welfare as we know it created a
very harsh prison um policy locking up
poor African American people very hard
on crime mandatory sentencing you know
Hillary Clinton has been behind all of
that and now she's suddenly trying to
change her tune so yes this doesn't work
and and I think this makes it all the
more important you know we sort of see
the political system in the US um in a
freef fall really you know it's been
held hostage by oligarchy by big money
for decades and it's you know the the
latest step uh has been citizens united
but there were a series of decisions
leading up to this and as money has
become more concentrated in fewer hands
to where you know it's now 62
billionaires that have the wealth of
half the entire world's population and
most of that is in the US you know
that's been building and as it has in
the words of uh the famous uh Supreme
Court Justice Lewis brandise uh we can
either have a democracy or vast
concentrations of wealth so we've got
that vast wealth it's now you know uh in
the hands of political parties and the
rub here is that you have to identify
that you have to call it out the problem
here is not just the billionaire
the problem is also the political
parties whom the billionaires control
which is why we feel in order to really
achieve economic uh equality in order to
achieve a a climate and an environment
that we can survive in to the end of
this Century let alone you know a world
for our children to end these massive
and expanding Wars we have to really uh
transform not only our economy not only
our military but in order to do all of
that we've really got to transform our
political system and it has happened
before the Predators put out this
mythology that resistance is feudal and
they have all these explanations for why
things can't change and they want you
basically to be locked into
powerlessness but there are plenty of
examples history is full of examples
about how change can happen from the
bottom up and even at the top resonating
with the bottom so for example a third
party has been elected to the presidency
of the United States and the example is
Abraham Lincoln the Republican party was
an independent and new third party uh
just before the Civil War it became the
party of abolition and a third party
candidate Abraham Lincoln was elected at
a time of great transition he's quite
well remembered the the the labor party
also was a a third uh party that's right
and in the minutes left to us that's I
think the what we used to call when it
was a lot of money The
$64,000 Question that Tweedle D versus
Tweedle Dum and you choose which is the
least ugly of the two to be your
president there's no future in that
apart from anything else it's an open
invitation to Tweedle Dums party to be
as much like Tweedle d as possible and
increasingly converging uh so a third
party is vitally necessary in the United
States but what do you think its chances
are in this poll imagine Trump versus
Clinton
versus Dr Jill Stein what's the chances
of making a breakthrough I think a
breakthrough is going to happen you know
the question is how big a breakthrough
will it be uh in the words of Woody
Allen half of life is showing up you
want to be there so that when the House
of Cards comes down you are there and
and in my view that is Our obligation
and that is where we declare Victory you
know the victory is getting as far and
as fast as we possibly can towards a
world in which we can survive and a
world in which we can Thrive because we
can't do that on the trajectory that
we're on right now and whether we get to
5% or whether we get to
55% uh the point is to be ready we're in
the age of the Black Swan event right
now all these unlikely and absolutely
impossible things are happening both for
better and for worse because we're you
know we're sort of in this age of
consequences right now of the corporate
uh hijack of our economy and our
political system so we have both
terrible things happening on the right
right and we have a real social
mobilization uh a movement for democracy
and Justice which is really sweeping
across the planet right now that needs
to be reflected in our political system
and I'll leave you with one thought
that's this there are 43 million young
people who are in debt right now in the
United States for whom there is no
future and For Whom the two parties are
exactly the same the Democrats and
Republicans offer them nothing 43
million people uh if they learn that
there is one candidate who will abolish
their debt and I am the only candidate
that will do that we could see 43
million people self- mobilize to come
out and vote 43 million is a plurality
of the vote in a three-way Race So if
young people learn that they can take
over this election take back their
economic future their climate future
their future of racial Justice bring a
whole Justice agenda with the
cancellation of debt they can actually
achieve that by checking the green box
uh on November 8th Dr Stein may be soon
the most powerful woman in the history
of the world thanks very much for
joining us on the sputnic coming up next
it's time to box clever and box up crime
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it welcome back to Sputnik it's the one
bit of grandmotherly wisdom which
politicians never seem to get a stitch
in time saves nine it costs more per
year to s send a young man to prison
than it does to send him to Eon but for
a mere fraction of that cost young men
could be saved from the road to jail in
the first place in a time of austerity
the taxpayer is spraying out hundreds of
millions of pounds putting people behind
bars after which most of them go on to
commit more expensive crime yet youth
services are the first to be slashed by
the government and local authorities
alike leaving boys and girls on the the
University of Mean Streets one young man
who attended that University was on that
road but dragged himself off it with his
own hands or rather his fists is stevenh
Addison of box up crime and I'm glad to
say he's in the ring with me now Stephen
thanks for uh joining us we'll come on
to uh box up crime and what you're doing
with it in a minute but tell us please
first how you got here what road you
were on and how you got off it it's been
a long journey and I'm very thankful
that I'm here and I'm alive here I'm
alive today you know I thank God for
taking me from where I was cuz I was in
a very dark place I caught up in a lot
of negative stuff all my friends around
me they were involved in drugs uh fraud
and it was this complete darkness but
growing up in a deprived um London
estate barkings prob one of the most po
Estates in London and and there's not
really much to kind of look forward to
like a lot of uh young people they kind
of follow this ideology that the only
way to be successful is through drugs or
fraud or robberies we don't young people
they don't really kind of aspire to kind
of get involved in like becoming a
business leader or setting up an
organization or becoming a sportsman
like that these sort of realities are
not common for young people because it's
not been exposed to young people and
from where I'm from I of got caught up
into that reality thinking that the only
way I can be successful is through crime
the the transformation took place for me
at the age of 20 so what brought about
that transformation so I had a dream at
the age of 20 uh that me and my friends
were going to go to prison for life for
murder and within that dream I saw that
the judge said you know what Steven you
guys like you guys have been convicted
for murder and this is uh you guys are
going to go jail and I remember looking
at my mates in the dream saying that
this this is messed up and then I can
remember I can see my mom like crying in
the gallery who was in The Old Bailey
and the dream just felt so real and then
uh I just felt God just say to me in the
dream that Steven if you carry on living
the lifestyle that you're living this is
going to be your reality so I woke up in
the morning and I uh told my mom no say
let me go back so after God explained it
to me that this is going to be my
reality if I carry on that lifestyle he
said if I change my life around and give
my life to him and start focusing he
will make me he will make my story
change and I'll become a role model and
I'll become an inspiration to many uh
many young people across the world and
I'll be I'll help young kids get off the
streets and out of
gangs my life started taken a whole
different route I stopped talking to my
mates I was 21 Stones I was overweight
but I just found some sort of confidence
in my new found Faith you know and I
just started going boxing I was going
boxing every single day cuz that was
taken away that was filling up my diary
from what I used to do cuz every single
day I was on the streets with my mates
but now every single day I was in the
boxing gym and my coach used to take me
he used to train me every day his name
was Tony Cece and he used to look after
me pick me up from college take me to
the gym like uh and I I just started
finding like purpose and I was really
focusing to I I picked up the confidence
to go university to study business and
uh when I got into University I lost a
lot of weight I was about I shed about
seven stones in fact and my University
asked me stepen Jo to compete in the
British championships like for the union
TR to represent the union and I was like
yeah I wouldn't mind and uh this is two
years later for me actually uh having
that dream two years after the dream and
I competed at the British championships
and I won Gold I won Gold at it and I
went I was really excited so I went to
go and get the newspapers to go and show
my my family and stuff like that and my
friends and I remember when I picked up
that newspaper that day like I was on
the back page in the sports section for
winning the championship but then I see
on the front page four like four of my
mates and one of them in particular is
the one I kept telling about and telling
about the dream said this is the dream I
had and they the judge had giving them
93 years in prison for murder so like
the dream that I had two years ago had
that actually manifested and come come
to life so you see that's uh such an
extraordinary story that one imagines
it's a dream one imagines it's a film
but I can vouch for the fact that what
you've just told the viewers is
absolutely correct on the day that you
got the gold medal the friends went to
jail for murder for murder God is great
there is no uh doubt about that tell us
how you made was it through your studies
of business that you have managed now
not just to be a role model but to make
this wonderful Project Box up crying at
the time when I got the news and then I
I saw myself in the back and I see my
friends it I kind of forgot about the
dream that I had previous to that
because it nothing had manifested
nothing had actually happened so to me
it was just a dream to my friends it was
just a dream to everyone around me it
was just a dream but then when I see
that I was like wow I remember God you
show me that two years ago and I just
felt a deep sense of conviction I was
humbled the fact that God gave me that
opportunity
to still be uh still be free and and
reveal that to me and then when I was at
University I was my final year and we
was asked to do a dissertation so I
decided to study uh how to set up a
social Enterprise that can effectively
like create change like amongst young
people so my lecturer at the time at
London South University was Dr Gloria
Gordon and she told me Steven like why
don't you actually since this cuz she
she knew my whole journey she knew my
journey and she said Stephen why you
actually um set something up and create
a sound model that will actually help
affect the change that you're looking
for so my dissertation title was called
when passion meets purpose preparing for
my breakthrough so I went to find out
what happens when you bring passion and
purpose together like what happen so
that was my main thesis for the
dissertation and the passion at the time
was uh boxing cuz I loved boxing I loved
boxing I still love boxing and then the
purpose
was helping young people come off the
streets so I went to bring the two
together I box in then helping young
people come off the streets and I came
up with the idea of box up crime and um
we came up with the conclusion that P
plus P equals m so purpose plus passion
equals meaning and that was like the
main conclusion of my dissertation I
would not find meaning until I actually
put my purpose and passion together did
you come up with the name even I came up
with the name box. crime yeah it's very
bril so this is this this is box H crime
so uh D has it worked has it saved other
young men like you well it's it's
working it's doing great that I got a
first class of my dissertation and my
University was like this idea looks like
it would be great let's really sponsor
it and see if it can go further so they
gave me £1,200 to actually do a pilot
study sixe pilot study we did our sixe
pilot study in 2013 August and we had
120 kids come down for the pilot study
and after the 6 week pilot study L the
kids were like we want that back we want
that back but I literally had no other
finances to fund it so I was like how am
I going to do it how am I going to do it
and then God opened the door you know
and he allowed me to pay for the rent
for the three months like to get like
the whole space and we invited all the
kids in the community to calm down now
three years three years down the line
we're still doing it we're working with
600 kids A week 6 600 600 young kids A
week we get referrals from probation
from the youth services like we work in
schools we provide behavioral programs
the same school that I actually got
kicked out of and told never to come
back they actually offered me a contract
to to take over their Behavioral Unit
you know and take over so we now run I
now run the Behavioral Unit at my old
school that was probably that one of the
worst students there I got kicked out 15
times in my old school you know and I
remember I remember I was just a
nightmare like every parents evenly my
mom will come home crying but now I'm
back in the same school working with
students which were just out myself with
we've got so many awards we've won so
many awards we won the team London award
in 2013 that was given to us by the
mayor of London Boris Johnson you know
but for me like is not the awards that
mean has he helped out a lot in your
project but he he's he's been he's been
supportive he's like he's he's um kind
of put us on that platform where a lot
of people look at us in a different way
when we won that award people didn't
just see it as oh this is Steven from
the streets but now they start seeing Oh
you know the recognition like a lot of
the people in that kind of world started
thinking you know was take interest this
but for me like the the most important
thing is seeing kids lives changed I'm
seeing young kids that have come out of
gangs I'm seeing kids that have been
walking around with guns knives I've
seeing kids that have stabbed kids and
now I'm seeing them working like in box
up as mentors and role models and
leaders and for me that is the only
award I kind of really want that's the
only recognition I really want a lot of
people ask me why are you doing it for
free the kids come down to my gym every
week for free you know and we don't
really get much C funding we don't get
no C funding people ask me why are you
taking on that social responsibility
like why you who commissions you to do
it but for me I believe that the
commissioning comes from a higher higher
higher source you know which is good so
I I believe that the purpose that I have
in this world is to work with these
young people that provide opportunities
for these young I don't want to see
young kids go to jail for 30 years and
get murdered you know that cuz I've
grown up seeing that often so it's now
time that I'm happy I'm thankful that
I'm in this position to really work with
these kids and even the fact that you
offered this opportunity this platform
for me to share this this story like
it's it speaks volumes like this shows
that what a great person you are you
know you're the you're you're the one
who speaks volumes you're a knockout
Stephen thanks for coming on the Sputnik
and we'll make sure that your project is
properly
showcased God bless screen God bless you
God bless
you now it's your turn to tell us what
you think through the portals of social
media what's rattling gy so who do you
fear most Trump or Clinton that's a hard
one it's a hard one so geopol politics
says Trump because his privileged
self-obsessed sociopath That Couldn't
care less about others H bone then
responds you've just described Hillary
Lenny edit then says it's a bit like
Blair or Cameron both cheeks of the same
bottom well uh uh it's a very powerful
set of points I mean it's always to an
extent Tweedle D and Tweedle Dum but
this is as uh close uh as you can get I
mean Trump leaving aside his personal
characteristics stands for exactly the
same things as Hillary Clint they're
both monsters well they are they're both
monsters I'm I'm sorry to say the one is
XX the other
XI yeah one's got two X chromosomes and
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